EngSci Myth: EngSci Has a Very High Drop-Out Rate!

EngSci graduation 2018

Spring Convocation 2019; Photo by: Ben Ouyang (EngSci 1T2 PEY)

Many incoming students have heard this rumour and are understandably worried of becoming part of a statistic. The great news is that this myth is not true!

First, let’s clarify terms: When people talk about “dropping out” they usually mean leaving a program (or even the university) because they failed academic courses in the program. This is very different from transferring from one program to another. In fact, the vast majority of students who leave EngSci are transferring to another program by choice, not because they did not meet the academic standards. Some of their reasons include: 

    1. Some students decide they want to focus on a specific field of engineering directly rather than waiting two years before specializing. This is the most common reason for transferring out of EngSci. After some exposure to different engineering topics in first-year courses, students transfer into a different U of T Engineering program because they discover that they are simply more interested in that program. Note: You have to do this before the transfer deadlines.

    2. Others want to better balance academics and extracurriculars*. EngSci is an academically challenging program, so while you may be doing well marks-wise, you may still want some more time to join more clubs, hold a part-time job, or practice a skill/hobby. 

    3. Some students may have misunderstood what engineering is, since it is a subject that is not usually taught in high school. This means quite a few students enter engineering programs without a very deep understanding of the discipline. Once they take some engineering courses, they may realize that they are more interested in pure math or science than they are in engineering. Since EngSci offers lots of exposure to these fields, a student may realize they want to study one of them directly.

*Note: This does not mean that you will not have time for extracurriculars in EngSci. In fact, many EngSci students are heavily involved in design teams, clubs, and the Skule community. You just have to manage your time better since you have six courses instead of five.


But what about the raw numbers? The great news is that 95% of first-year U of T Engineering students continue into their second year of engineering at U of T and ultimately complete their degrees. 

So why the myth about EngSci? Each year, around 300 students enter the program and 200 graduate from it. That means that about 100 students leave the program in each cohort. In other programs – like Chemical Engineering – you might see about 120 students admitted each year and about 120 graduating. Although it may seem like EngSci has a much higher attrition rate than Chemical Engineering, there’s a missing piece! 

Many undergraduate students change their program or major during their first year. This is totally understandable! We are all exploring new topics and may need some time to figure out what truly interests us. That’s why the university has built flexibility into the system, and allowed students to move between programs.

For Core 8 students, it is relatively easy to transfer in and out of other U of T Engineering programs. Thus, similar numbers of students transfer both into and out of Core 8 programs and the total number of students in those programs does not fluctuate much.

As with Core 8 students, EngScis can easily transfer into other U of T Engineering programs. However, EngSci is a “direct entry only” program, meaning it is extremely difficult to transfer into EngSci from another program. This makes it seem like EngSci has more people leaving than other programs, which is not really accurate.


Remember: You were admitted to EngSci for a reason! The Faculty puts all applicants through a rigorous admissions process. They select students who they think will be successful in the program and in their work after graduation. You are one of these students and everyone here wants to help you succeed in your academic journey! To explore the student supports available at U of T visit Engineering Science Advising and Support.

If you discover that EngSci isn’t the right fit for you, whether for academic or personal reasons, you will certainly be successful in another university program should you choose that path. Our academic advisors are here to help you, as they have done for many students before you.